<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Know Your Place, Part Two</title> <atom:link href="http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/2009/04/know-your-place-part-two/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/2009/04/know-your-place-part-two/</link> <description>The Blog of Photographer David duChemin // Gear is Good. Vision is Better.</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:57:31 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1</generator> <item><title>By: Tom Guffey</title><link>http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/2009/04/know-your-place-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-10787</link> <dc:creator>Tom Guffey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:23:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/?p=2700#comment-10787</guid> <description>David, Excellent pos,t and great words for all of us to take into consideration.!!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,<br /> Excellent pos,t and great words for all of us to take into consideration.!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: A stunning festival of photography links&#8230; &#124; Chuqui 3.0</title><link>http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/2009/04/know-your-place-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-5101</link> <dc:creator>A stunning festival of photography links&#8230; &#124; Chuqui 3.0</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:20:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/?p=2700#comment-5101</guid> <description>[...] David duChemin: Know your Place, Part 2 [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] David duChemin: Know your Place, Part 2 [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Andrew Barton</title><link>http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/2009/04/know-your-place-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-5032</link> <dc:creator>Andrew Barton</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 02:44:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/?p=2700#comment-5032</guid> <description>Great post David and great conversation everyone!  It brings to mind a comment I heard Eric Clapton make in an interview when discussing Stevie Ray Vaughn’s guitar style.  He said “there came a time where Stevie stopped sounding like Albert King and started sounding like Stevie”.   As we grow in our photography we see styles that attract us.  We try to emulate that style so as to understand the technique and creative process that formed the image.  I don’t see anything wrong with that, but the big step is to take everything you have learned and turn it into your own style rather than getting stuck in someone else’s style.  I think I still have a good 10 years or so in front of me to figure that out! :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post David and great conversation everyone!  It brings to mind a comment I heard Eric Clapton make in an interview when discussing Stevie Ray Vaughn’s guitar style.  He said “there came a time where Stevie stopped sounding like Albert King and started sounding like Stevie”.   As we grow in our photography we see styles that attract us.  We try to emulate that style so as to understand the technique and creative process that formed the image.  I don’t see anything wrong with that, but the big step is to take everything you have learned and turn it into your own style rather than getting stuck in someone else’s style.  I think I still have a good 10 years or so in front of me to figure that out! <img src='http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alex Saunders</title><link>http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/2009/04/know-your-place-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-5030</link> <dc:creator>Alex Saunders</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:46:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/?p=2700#comment-5030</guid> <description>Oh yeah, I wasn&#039;t advocating selling-out to the man.  Wait. White, Anglo-Saxon, late thirties - I am the man aren&#039;t I !?!?!Just kidding.No, I understand that we need to be careful about losing ourselves in pursuit of the almighty dollar. I think sometimes we idealize “Photography” and in striving to keep it “pure” we neglect the idea that we can be journeymen /women and artists.  Is it a hard balance – Sure.  Will it take time away from pursuing your vision – Perhaps.  My comment about Ansel wasn’t derogatory in the least, simply practical.Alain Briot talks about his early work in photography as a time when he took very commercial images of iconic places to sell to tourists.  He even has some, ‘shutter’, montages that he made into posters.  It was a means to an end.  He now seems to be much more focused on the artistic side of his photography and developing his vision.  He never forgot what he wanted to achieve nor did he stop making images he loved personally.  Those years shooting commerically viable landscapes directed his vision and helped it develop.I agree, don&#039;t be forced from your passion by the market.  But I imagine most people here aren&#039;t market driven to begin with - most artists aren&#039;t.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, I wasn&#8217;t advocating selling-out to the man.  Wait. White, Anglo-Saxon, late thirties &#8211; I am the man aren&#8217;t I !?!?!</p><p>Just kidding.</p><p>No, I understand that we need to be careful about losing ourselves in pursuit of the almighty dollar. I think sometimes we idealize “Photography” and in striving to keep it “pure” we neglect the idea that we can be journeymen /women and artists.  Is it a hard balance – Sure.  Will it take time away from pursuing your vision – Perhaps.  My comment about Ansel wasn’t derogatory in the least, simply practical.</p><p>Alain Briot talks about his early work in photography as a time when he took very commercial images of iconic places to sell to tourists.  He even has some, ‘shutter’, montages that he made into posters.  It was a means to an end.  He now seems to be much more focused on the artistic side of his photography and developing his vision.  He never forgot what he wanted to achieve nor did he stop making images he loved personally.  Those years shooting commerically viable landscapes directed his vision and helped it develop.</p><p>I agree, don&#8217;t be forced from your passion by the market.  But I imagine most people here aren&#8217;t market driven to begin with &#8211; most artists aren&#8217;t.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris Ward</title><link>http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/2009/04/know-your-place-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-5027</link> <dc:creator>Chris Ward</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:07:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/?p=2700#comment-5027</guid> <description>I hear you David. Not sure about Alex, but I have spent a lot of years looking for the thing that I would love to do that would earn income. Resturants, retail sales, bike mechanic, tax prep, cabinet maker, (to name a few) and now software developer. I am good at what I do, and don&#039;t hate it, but I wish for something a little more creative. I have rediscovered photography after a long hiatius (pentax film camera in my early 20&#039;s), and would like this to be my new career. (I had considered photography back then, but abandoned it for reasons unknown now) I have a lot of work to do on the craft side, so I am not &quot;quitting my day job&quot; just yet, (although my current software contract expires soon) so I am planning a slowish transition. The trick is to find the little red X to transition to that enables me to shoot the things I love.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you David. Not sure about Alex, but I have spent a lot of years looking for the thing that I would love to do that would earn income. Resturants, retail sales, bike mechanic, tax prep, cabinet maker, (to name a few) and now software developer. I am good at what I do, and don&#8217;t hate it, but I wish for something a little more creative. I have rediscovered photography after a long hiatius (pentax film camera in my early 20&#8242;s), and would like this to be my new career. (I had considered photography back then, but abandoned it for reasons unknown now) I have a lot of work to do on the craft side, so I am not &#8220;quitting my day job&#8221; just yet, (although my current software contract expires soon) so I am planning a slowish transition. The trick is to find the little red X to transition to that enables me to shoot the things I love.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David</title><link>http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/2009/04/know-your-place-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-5026</link> <dc:creator>David</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:54:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/?p=2700#comment-5026</guid> <description>Hey, we do NOT speak that way about Ansel Adams on this blog!:-PHard making your way with one specialty? You betcha. The reward when the payoff comes and you&#039;ve not completely sold out to the man? Priceless.  Sure there&#039;s going to be compromise. And some people shoot weddings to subsidize their true passion. But don&#039;t change how you shoot what you love, or change what you shoot to begin with, just to earn a buck. Find a better way. Be a zoologist ( I know, crazy example, right Alex?) if that&#039;s what it takes to allow you to create the images you want. Do it entirely for the market and the money and it&#039;ll suck you dry and you&#039;ll be just another creator of kitsch, propaganda, or just crap.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, we do NOT speak that way about Ansel Adams on this blog!</p><p> <img src='http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>Hard making your way with one specialty? You betcha. The reward when the payoff comes and you&#8217;ve not completely sold out to the man? Priceless.  Sure there&#8217;s going to be compromise. And some people shoot weddings to subsidize their true passion. But don&#8217;t change how you shoot what you love, or change what you shoot to begin with, just to earn a buck. Find a better way. Be a zoologist ( I know, crazy example, right Alex?) if that&#8217;s what it takes to allow you to create the images you want. Do it entirely for the market and the money and it&#8217;ll suck you dry and you&#8217;ll be just another creator of kitsch, propaganda, or just crap.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alex Saunders</title><link>http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/2009/04/know-your-place-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-5025</link> <dc:creator>Alex Saunders</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:42:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/?p=2700#comment-5025</guid> <description>Chris - I&#039;m looking at this as well.  I love to photograph everything.  I idea of giving up shooting weddings before I&#039;ve even tried one just isn&#039;t for me.Luckily I&#039;ve got a job I love that doesn&#039;t involve photography (at least not 100%) that pays the bills.  It allows me to take a shotgun approach to my photography business at the moment while I see what I truly can&#039;t live without shooting.  Sure it hamstrings me as far as having a dilute red X (a faded, pink, lowercase x at the moment) but it is fun and exciting and I don&#039;t have the morgage riding on it.I also think that it can be hard making your way with one speciality if you&#039;re not well know for it.  It seems to be a double edged sword - shoot one thing and do it well but what if no one wants to buy your one thing?  It seems like the market might drive our endevors somewhat - is that the practical side of being an artist in any medium.Don&#039;t forget - Ansel Adams shot catalogue images to support his landscape work.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris &#8211; I&#8217;m looking at this as well.  I love to photograph everything.  I idea of giving up shooting weddings before I&#8217;ve even tried one just isn&#8217;t for me.</p><p>Luckily I&#8217;ve got a job I love that doesn&#8217;t involve photography (at least not 100%) that pays the bills.  It allows me to take a shotgun approach to my photography business at the moment while I see what I truly can&#8217;t live without shooting.  Sure it hamstrings me as far as having a dilute red X (a faded, pink, lowercase x at the moment) but it is fun and exciting and I don&#8217;t have the morgage riding on it.</p><p>I also think that it can be hard making your way with one speciality if you&#8217;re not well know for it.  It seems to be a double edged sword &#8211; shoot one thing and do it well but what if no one wants to buy your one thing?  It seems like the market might drive our endevors somewhat &#8211; is that the practical side of being an artist in any medium.</p><p>Don&#8217;t forget &#8211; Ansel Adams shot catalogue images to support his landscape work.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ian</title><link>http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/2009/04/know-your-place-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-5024</link> <dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:52:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/?p=2700#comment-5024</guid> <description>Another great post David, both today and yesterday, and something I think I knew, but needed to hear before I admitted it. You get such a buzz from shooting all the different things you love but it&#039;s easy to get carried away by that &quot;Hey guys! Look at this! ..and this!! ...and this!!! ...and even this!!!!&quot; but in the long run it doesn&#039;t do your career any good. Time to continue with that site revamp coming up I guess.As a slight aside, I never really thought of you alongside Al Jourgensen but now you mention it.... ;)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great post David, both today and yesterday, and something I think I knew, but needed to hear before I admitted it. You get such a buzz from shooting all the different things you love but it&#8217;s easy to get carried away by that &#8220;Hey guys! Look at this! ..and this!! &#8230;and this!!! &#8230;and even this!!!!&#8221; but in the long run it doesn&#8217;t do your career any good. Time to continue with that site revamp coming up I guess.</p><p>As a slight aside, I never really thought of you alongside Al Jourgensen but now you mention it&#8230;. <img src='http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Fred Lee</title><link>http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/2009/04/know-your-place-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-5023</link> <dc:creator>Fred Lee</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/?p=2700#comment-5023</guid> <description>that was great, thanks for that David!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that was great, thanks for that David!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David</title><link>http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/2009/04/know-your-place-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-5022</link> <dc:creator>David</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:18:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/?p=2700#comment-5022</guid> <description>Hey guys, a quick reply before I head out the door for meetings. I think it&#039;s both. Depends where you&#039;re at. It took me 15 years+ to unearth the things I loved shooting. Before that, i shot anything that moved. Or didn&#039;t move. Pretty much shot everything. And I don&#039;t regret it, I think it was valuable. You shoot something, decide if you enjoy it, are passionate about it, and then - if the answer is no - you move on, one step closer to knowing what you ARE passionate about. But like I said, took me 15 years.But long term it&#039;s better to have a job shooting what you love than a job not shooting what you love. And I&#039;d take no job in photography at all over taking one just to pay the bills. That&#039;s why I didn&#039;t go into photography straight out of college. For that matter it&#039;s why I didn&#039;t go into &quot;the ministry&quot; straight out of theology school. Unless it&#039;s right, doing something merely for a paycheck isn&#039;t much of a life, just a living. Assuming I&#039;m eating and paying my bills, money isn&#039;t as important to me as my vision and my craft.Jeffrey, I love your 4am concept. &quot;What&#039;s your 4am shot?&quot; - brilliant!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, a quick reply before I head out the door for meetings. I think it&#8217;s both. Depends where you&#8217;re at. It took me 15 years+ to unearth the things I loved shooting. Before that, i shot anything that moved. Or didn&#8217;t move. Pretty much shot everything. And I don&#8217;t regret it, I think it was valuable. You shoot something, decide if you enjoy it, are passionate about it, and then &#8211; if the answer is no &#8211; you move on, one step closer to knowing what you ARE passionate about. But like I said, took me 15 years.</p><p>But long term it&#8217;s better to have a job shooting what you love than a job not shooting what you love. And I&#8217;d take no job in photography at all over taking one just to pay the bills. That&#8217;s why I didn&#8217;t go into photography straight out of college. For that matter it&#8217;s why I didn&#8217;t go into &#8220;the ministry&#8221; straight out of theology school. Unless it&#8217;s right, doing something merely for a paycheck isn&#8217;t much of a life, just a living. Assuming I&#8217;m eating and paying my bills, money isn&#8217;t as important to me as my vision and my craft.</p><p>Jeffrey, I love your 4am concept. &#8220;What&#8217;s your 4am shot?&#8221; &#8211; brilliant!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
<!-- Performance optimized by W3 Total Cache. Learn more: http://www.w3-edge.com/wordpress-plugins/

Minified using disk
Page Caching using disk (user agent is rejected)
Database Caching 1/15 queries in 0.005 seconds using disk
Object Caching 380/384 objects using disk

Served from: www.pixelatedimage.com @ 2012-02-12 05:13:40 -->
